Friday, March 13, 2009

Not Exactly Poker

Do you buy raffle tickets if the money is going to a good cause?

13 comments:

Arch Bishop said...

I do not buy raffle tickets - it is a type of gambling. I will donate to a good cause, but I do not believe in giving handouts to religious beggars that hang out in front of stores.

JamesCharles said...

Other than being an appearance of evil according to our current society, if you only spend a few dollars a week for the pure enjoyment, is gambling wrong?

StockwellMBC said...

I bought one and won a brand new Mossburg 12 gauge. Good purchase.

Big J said...

let's be clear...raffle tickets are taking an unaccounted for chance.

have we reached the point where we cannot just give to a cause without expecting anything in return.

Every year our school puts on a community event for the PTO...selling chances/raffle tickets is the major money maker...9 years ago I preached a message on the ills of gambling that even buying raffle tickets is a form of gambling and we should abstain. Even though it is a miniscule amount doesn't make it acceptable liek using derivative words instead of the cuss words.

I do not buy the tickets but make a donation every year just the same.

Why is gambling wrong:
1. it plays on the false assumption of get something for nothing..the Lord said if any will not work let him not eat.

2. it stops the free enterprise system...a company makes money, buys more product to sell etc...gambling just goes into pockets.

3. it plays on the selfish nature within all of us...the natural bent we have to sin, the flesh craves satisfying and lives on the thrill of what may happen.

4. Couldn't that money be used for something in God's Kingdom?

5. Gambling destroys spiritual sensitivity...remember the foot of the Cross...totally oblivious to the man dying to save them from their sin.

JamesCharles said...

#4 - The same goes for golf, nice cars, TV, or ANYTHING entertaining.

#5 - From what I've studied, a lot is a stone (sometimes dual colored). One color represents a yes, the other a no. (I think the phrase blackballed comes from this concept?) Many times, your lot was specific to you, whether it had your insignia on it, or just looked unique and was known to be yours. Usually these were used in voting yes or no. Somtimes you "cast your lot" when voting on many nominations and whatever/whoever received the largest number of lots was chosen. Other times, you placed your lot next to an item when dividing up properties, the item you wanted. Thus, they were not gambling at the feet of Jesus.

Drawing lots is much different. Drawing lots is like drawing a name out of a hat, pure chance (or gambling if you will.) BTW, Do you or anyone else ever draw names out of a hate to decide anything, or flip a coin? Drawing sticks? If so, it is gambling the same way they did with lots.


Finally, your first three points were wonderful, and I have never thought about them. Thank you for your insight. I no longer have to stand on the "abstain from the appearance of evil" verse to avoid gambling or teach the same. Thank you.

StockwellMBC said...

Good Comment Bro. Jason. I also have never view buying a raffle ticket as wrong. B the way I was joking about buying one to win a shotgun) I have never won anything is my life.

JamesCharles said...

What about entering a drawing (without putting any cash in.) My parents have won a Big Screen TV, a Nintendo Wii, a sports boat (calling in to a radio station) among MANY other small things by entering free drawings.

On a side note, when I was 5 or 6, my parents bought scratch off tickets (an atheist family who'd never even visited a true church). They tell me they used to buy three one dollar tickets on the first day of every month (so, three dollars a month.) When I was that age, I scratched on and won $15,000.00 which was put into government bonds immediately which then would double after 10 years. Just thought I'd let you all know that.


If gambling is wrong, are raffle tickets? If raffle tickets are wrong, are entering drawings? If entering drawings are wrong, is investing in the stock market?

StockwellMBC said...
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StockwellMBC said...

Where is the line drawn? We are surrounded by what I consider the "Devils Den". I believe everyone of us view the Casino's as evil playgrounds the devil uses to destroy the lives of many. Seriously, I have talked with those who have lost everything they ave to "Chance". Also have talked to those who "Deal" the cards of Black Jack. Please let me know of the verses not just opinions you guys use to explain why Gambling is a sin.

Again I like Bro. Jason's view.

Should one who deals Black Jack or even works for the Casino's be excluded from the church? IF so what about the workers of convenient stores and the restaurants that sale the tickets of chance, alcohol and Play Boy magazines?

JamesCharles said...

And should we go to stores that sale the tickets and alcohol? If not, what about purchasing anything from the walmart chain who (in a dry county may not sale alcohol) is connected with other walmart stores that do sale alcohol? Same thing with being employed there.

L.L.L. said...

Hello Brothers,
What about racing for money? I entered my car to be on Pinks All-Out. If i make the show and win i will receive a thousand dollars. Each race i can put the money up for a prize. Is this wrong?

LLL
P.S. I know the answer

saved said...

I've never purchased a raffle ticket for a child's fundraiser really expecting to win. I just wanted to help them raise money.

I believe it depends on whether or not you are able to control your habit. Some people buy lottery tickets every once in a while. Others spend their rent, food and utility money on it.

Just to clarify, I don't buy lottery tickets.

RevReese said...

I have no problem with buying a raffle ticket, because gambling is a motive of the heart, the desire to get something for nothing, the desire according to the Bible, to get rich quick is wrong.
Raffle tickets are just a way for a group to raise money and if the organization is a worthy organization then buy one. BTW churches should not solicit money from the world.
If I know that buying a raffle ticket will offend my "weaker brethren" ( I Corinthians), then I should abstain.

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